There's gunsmiths and then there's gunbutchers!

[392heminut]

The sad thing is the gun owner went back for a second dose!

 

https://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?207331-Friend-s-rifle-was-butchered-at-local-shop

[mineralman55]

Although relatively new to the AR308 platform, I shot and competed with M1 and M14s for over 25 years. I can tell you from experience that level of poor work is, unfortunately, commonplace with Garands and M14s. And it's often from hacks who advertise nationally that they are "experts" (quality M1/M14 gunsmiths are RARE).

 

The best advice I can give is to ask before you allot work what their policy is for unsatisfactory work.

[Toolndie7]

WOW !  No words for that

[Microgunner]

That'll buff right out.

[shibiwan]

yikes!!

[Rsquared]

Talk about FUGLY.

[Dane Armory]

So many guns come our shop which have been F*cked up by Gunsmiths..Also a lot of Guns come in for Gun shop that need to be fixed after the owner have butchered them. I am thinking its more common than anyone likes to admit ! But giving it back to a customer not fixed is a crime ! We just take a long time, but the work is done right !

I have done a dozen M1 Carbines restorations this year and they all look like new and shoot great !

[survivalshop]

   Cut, then Welded the gas block back together , priceless !

   I can't see how he can even clam he is his welder ? Or want to . Should have never been given back to the owner like that , it is truly unbelievable or as some said , a hoax .

[survivalshop]

That'll buff right out.

 

 

  I like your thinking . <lmao>

[unforgiven]

That's gonna get someone seriously fukeup one of these days.

[planeflyer21]

That's truly horrible...on many levels.  His buddy took that back?!  I would have demanded a new rifle.

 

Wow.  "I took welding in highschool shop, for half a semester before getting kicked out for smoking pot and drinking beer on campus.  That means I'm a gunsmith!"

 

I shouldn't say that.  Stoners create more quality foil pipes than that so-called gunsmithing job.

 

While I've not seen anything that shoddy locally, a local store...Black Weapons Armory...is garnering quite the reputation for incompetent and incompleted work on ARs, keeping rifles for half a year, etc.

[Tripledeuce]

    Back in the day, when I had a retail shop, and did general gunsmithing, Whenever I had to outsource something, I sent one of my own guns first.

    I was doing a lot of 1911  work, as well as custom long guns.   Numerous places that needed heli-arcing.

   Its suprising how many "certified" welders couldn't do a decent job on guns!

   I took one gun to six different welders.  The seventh was able to fix the stuff the other six botched. 

even in the mid 70's I was paying him $100 an hour,$100 minimum.    He was worth every penny!

    Always ask to see a sample of the work, first!

 

   Respectfully

  Terry

 

[392heminut]

I can weld and I have done a little work on a Para Ordinance receiver of my own, but I wouldn't even attempt it on gun parts belonging to someone else!

[shepp]

I'd beat somone senseless

[Tripledeuce]

  What is the shops Guarentee policy?

   I once replced a contender bbl for a customer.   He's asked me to re-chamber a 357 bbl to 357-44 Bain and Davis,  The reamer left a small "nick" in the vey rear of the bbl.    of no mechanical meaning, but the customer didnt like "the look".

    Again, ask the stores policy.

   Respectfully

   Terry

[planeflyer21]

Those frickin Pakistanis with tredle-lathes and files do better gunsmithing.

[lakeracer69]

Nothing wrong with that. It'll buff right out. ::)

[shibiwan]

Wow.  "I took welding in highschool shop, for half a semester before getting kicked out for smoking pot and drinking beer on campus.  That means I'm a gunsmith!"

 

I shouldn't say that.  Stoners create more quality foil pipes than that so-called gunsmithing job.

 

Hey, that butchered up AR isn't totally wasted. It can now be used as a bong!  <lmao>  <laughs>

Edited December 4, 2014 by shibiwan

[planeflyer21]

/\/\/\/\/\ Bwwaaaahahahahahahahaha!!

[shepp]

Hey, that butchered up AR isn't totally wasted. It can now be used as a bong! <lmao> <laughs>

Or a bat

[BigP623]

I read all the comments and it looks like they are meeting up tonight to discuss what's going to be done at the shop. Definately curious on what's going to happen with this one...

[shibiwan]

Or a bat

 

...or a suppository.  <laughs>

[survivalshop]

I read all the comments and it looks like they are meeting up tonight to discuss what's going to be done at the shop. Definately curious on what's going to happen with this one...

 

 

  Should have never left the shop & given back to the owner in that condition. Never !

  If they don't replace that barrel assembly at no cost to the customer , the customer should lawyer up.

  To me , I think it can still be a hoax .

  Update;

 

Re: Friend's rifle was butchered at local shop....

Good news! My buddy met with the owner of the shop and the armorer and they agreed to replace of the parts and refund the money. The armorer was very apologetic and said he has since met with another gunsmith to learn more about proper procedures. They're suppose to order parts tomorrow. I'll update everyone once everything is in and the deal has been completed.

 

   

From what my buddy told me, they're new, good quality parts. It'll be a Daniel Defense barrel rather than a BCM which my buddy is fine with.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2014 by survivalshop

[planeflyer21]

The lack of quality gunsmiths is disturbing.  People get a couple of armorer certifications and think they're gunsmiths.  Much like people that sharpen a few tool bits and think they're "tool and die makers".  Not even close.

[DNP]

I'm not a gunsmith and have no certifications...even I know that was fucked up. There is zero excuse for that. It has to be a kid running that shop.