Bates Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 No, not trolling, too much info from you anti gun nuts lol...! I'm into hog hunting. I have the Lapua for bigger long range shot, I'm literally destroying my face with the telescope that I have on my riffle. Looking for rapid 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th shots...I'd like the recoil to be as low as possible. I was thinking a 308 will be more then enough of fire power. Sorry for the delay, I got locked out, new to this forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 16 inch barrel, rifle length gas system, and a good compensator/ brake, maybe even an adjustable gas block, should be a real soft shooter for rapid follow up shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Bates why not a 6.8 or a 300 blackout for the pigs and deer.....300 blackout heck yes, light recoil , really rapid follow up shots... 30 cal..build it for cheap.... Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 ^^^ That description is the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bates Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 17 hours ago, JJ109 said: All depends what style hunting you do. Are you sitting in a blind? Are you driving them with dogs? What ranges are you taking shots from? All this is going to play into your build. I personally would build a flexible hunting rifle knowing I could set up in a blind with a bi pod or bag and still be able to drive them. So I would want something light, probably stick with a 16" or 18" barrel to keep the weight down. Stalking...we do use my two 200lb Rottweilers on occasion when the pigs are big and need running... Ar15 is small I think, it works but I want it to drop. With the 15 you have to hit just right with correct ammo to drop. I'm sure folks are gona say I suck but itshe the truth. 223s don't penetrate large hogs. I think a 308 is good, 338 is a freaking hammer. I'm also 250lbs so carrying these guns isn't an issue, I'm the idiot who stalked with the Barrett 50...we had no meat left but it was fun. LoL I'm looking something tactical, tactical store, accessories, low recoil and I think 308 power should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, Bates said: Stalking...we do use my two 200lb Rottweilers on occasion when the pigs are big and need running... Ar15 is small I think, it works but I want it to drop. With the 15 you have to hit just right with correct ammo to drop. I'm sure folks are gona say I suck but itshe the truth. 223s don't penetrate large hogs. I think a 308 is good, 338 is a freaking hammer. I'm also 250lbs so carrying these guns isn't an issue, I'm the idiot who stalked with the Barrett 50...we had no meat left but it was fun. LoL I'm looking something tactical, tactical store, accessories, low recoil and I think 308 power should be enough. Your right 223/556 is to small imo unless your head shooting. Lemme get this straight tho youve shot 50bmg and 338 lm and 308 recoil bothers you?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I don't think that's what he was saying shepp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 yeah I think a 308 with a 16 or 18 inch medium contour barrel and a good muzzle break will do you just fine. doesn't sound like you need some crazy out there built, just something about average that will basically work for a bunch of different applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bates Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 15 hours ago, shepp said: Welcome to the forum feel free to post in the intro section I gotta agree with trooper and JJ, left the door pretty wide open we need to narrow it down a bit, but there is now holy grail of 308 caliber ar's Yeah I sure did, I've wanted one for a long time but after this last TX hunt...damn pigs are coming from everywhere, shooting with a bolt action 338 is a recipient for SCOPING! I also don't want to spend several thousand dollars on something that I don't need. This one is my hog killer. Usually in a stalk we'll walk onto a group of 7, 8 hogs...bolt action sucks, I used my 1911 after scoping myself the second time. I like the black tactical look, pistol grip...I like the silver berral look...recoil as low as we can go in a 308. Something like these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bates Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 15 hours ago, shepp said: Welcome to the forum feel free to post in the intro section I gotta agree with trooper and JJ, left the door pretty wide open we need to narrow it down a bit, but there is now holy grail of 308 caliber ar's Yeah I sure did, I've wanted one for a long time but after this last TX hunt...damn pigs are coming from everywhere, shooting with a bolt action 338 is a recipient for SCOPING! I also don't want to spend several thousand dollars on something that I don't need. This one is my hog killer. Usually in a stalk we'll walk onto a group of 7, 8 hogs...bolt action sucks, I used my 1911 after scoping myself the second time. I like the black tactical look, pistol grip...I like the silver berral look...recoil as low as we can go in a 308. Something like these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 ok, well first of all, I would say those barrels are around 22" or so. if you are going to be stalking and shooting within 300 yards, definitely don't need such a long barrel. even 16 in barrels can put rounds accurately down range at over 600 yards if it is a good build and you have the ability to shoot that well. and the scope on the bottom one especially is not very functional for hunting, it's more a target or just straight up long range scope where you are either going to be sitting at a bench or in the prone. those barrels are also bull barrels, nice and rigid and takes longer to heat up, but heavier than need be since seems like you will be firing maybe 5 shots and actually be carrying this rifle. and I am a fan of bull barrels, just don't think you need one for what you are looking for. the rifles in the pictures are going to be heavier than you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 http://aeroprecisionusa.com/m5e1-30818b-ek15-complete-rifle.html a build that comes out something like this I think would be good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bates Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, ARTrooper said: http://aeroprecisionusa.com/m5e1-30818b-ek15-complete-rifle.html a build that comes out something like this I think would be good for you Thanks, the recoil from a 338 doesn't bother me as long as I'm stationery and shooting single rounds but when these bastards come out my scope just likes to rearrange my face...I'm no puss but that crap hurts! Thanks everyone for the help..!!! Smartass's too...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Bates like ARtrooper stated those two rifles in the pics are not even close to what you need.... 16" barrel and a holographic sight for using both eyes open is what you need..... dont doubt the 300 blackout though ...its an ar15 with 30 cal smackdown......did you build your ar15 or buy it? reason im asking is cause all it needs is a barrel change....same bcg and mag...you should change your 223 to a 300 blackout even if you build a 308 Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 300 blackout is good for close range, but for some of the bigger hogs, I wouldn't use it past 100 yards. but smaller hogs like most areas have, maybe 200 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just a thought: while it adds a little weight, a 16" bull barrel gives you a lot of flexibility as far as distance accuracy in a shorter, handier package. If you are going up and down the side of mountains, go with the shortest, lightest 308AR you can find. A pencil barrel, etc. etc.. It Sounds like you want something fairly mobile, but those pictures would indicate you also want something with high accuracy potential. You won't lose anything with the 16" barrel versus a longer one until you get well past 500 yards, and I find the heavy barrel makes for a really secure platform for longer shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 If you want a 308 , as said above , the 16" is all that is needed , unless you plan on mostly long range shots , but for quick shots the 16" would is a fast swinging rifle . I'm not a fan of Thin Pensile Barrels , to me on a 308 , a med. contour is a better choice IMO. Stainless Steel barrel , be is a good choice for a hunting rig. 3x9x40( 50 )scope is good , but if wanting quick closer range shots , a more compact scope may work better for you . Having a very low mounted Scope on any AR can be problematic for most large framed men or women , to get proper sighting through it . Stock choice , is a matter of what fits you & what you plan on using the rife for , Collapsable stocks are good for a verity of reasons , adj. length of pull , if wearing a lot of heavy clothing or Tactical gear , Rifle stocks work good ,but are not adj. , if not needed , the Magpul MOE rifle stock is an great rifle stock , much better then the A2 AR stock . A good FCG ( Trigger ) is also important , there are so many now a days , look in the various sections on 308 parts here on this sight & you will get a feeling on what most are using & what other components are the most popular . Make a list on what you intend on using & the manufacturers & the comments will follow . Know this , the 308AR Platform is not like its little brother , some manufacturers don't play well with others , there are no real comparable spec's like on the all MilSpec AR 15 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 22 hours ago, ARTrooper said: I generally like to ease my victims into the insanity Sometimes it's better to rip the band aid off quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Bates sounds like be a good candidate for 300blk out. Good out to 200 yards and has serious knock down power. My buddy has a 16 inch 300blk out. Very fun to shoot. Ammo is much easier to get now and you can run standard ar15 mags. Recoil is not bad at all little bit more then 223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 He may just be waiting on a reasonably serious answer he can believe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 On 10/15/2016 at 11:49 AM, Robocop1051 said: He's waiting for me to make a 300WM version https://nemoarms.com/rifles/omen-recon/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 51 minutes ago, JJ109 said: https://nemoarms.com/rifles/omen-recon/ What are the reviews on this? It looks nasty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 52 minutes ago, JJ109 said: , -https://nemoarms.com/rifles/omen-recon/ I've known NEMO/SI-Defense/Falkor for some time now. They make great products. I don't know anyone that can afford their newer stuff. As good as they are, they might be priced out of the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: I've known NEMO/SI-Defense/Falkor for some time now. They make great products. I don't know anyone that can afford their newer stuff. As good as they are, they might be priced out of the market. Yea but that 300wm AR looks dam nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 32 minutes ago, Sisco said: What are the reviews on this? It looks nasty! Not sure. I seen this gun before. I know they are not the only ones that make a 300wm AR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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