lilmidtown Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 When I bought my armalite ar10 I was told not to shoot steel but any bulk ammo I found is steel or maybe I'm just confused basically what I'm asking is what bulk ammo can I buy that won't harm my firearm or myself haha thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Brass-cased M80 ball. Or anything similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Be nice to your rifle and feed it brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Yeah, don't mess around with that steel cased $hit. Leave it for the commie rifles. I've shot a little out of one of my 10 carbines, and it ran fine, but that was basically just to burn up what I had on hand. And I've never bothered replacing it. That was early on, and it's been nothing but brass cased stuff since then. For blasting purposes, stick with some standard M80 like 98 said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 8:43 AM, lilmidtown said: When I bought my armalite ar10 I was told not to shoot steel but any bulk ammo I found is steel or maybe I'm just confused basically what I'm asking is what bulk ammo can I buy that won't harm my firearm or myself haha thank you https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/308-win-762x51-ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 similar ammo.. https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP308FMJ145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmidtown Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 It's got to be shipped to an FFL for me to get it there goes another 25 dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 M80 or L2A2 are both NATO spec FMJ. They run about 145-150 grains, depending on the year they are manufactured. I have a shit ton of 147gr right now. You can shoot steel cased ammo fine. The mild steel case is not match for a quality built rifle. It’s the magnetic projectile you have to worry about... and even then, not so much. Shooting 10 steel rounds is about the same as shoot 15 standard rounds. It does reduce the barrel life faster than copper, but the money you save will MORE than replace your barrel. You’ll save about $50 per 1k rounds. A barrel life is normally about 6k-8k rounds (depending on how you shoot). A barrel that shoots only steel will be about 4.5k rounds... at which point you will have saved over $200 and should have budgeted for a new barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmidtown Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: M80 or L2A2 are both NATO spec FMJ. They run about 145-150 grains, depending on the year they are manufactured. I have a poop ton of 147gr right now. You can shoot steel cased ammo fine. The mild steel case is not match for a quality built rifle. It’s the magnetic projectile you have to worry about... and even then, not so much. Shooting 10 steel rounds is about the same as shoot 15 standard rounds. It does reduce the barrel life faster than copper, but the money you save will MORE than replace your barrel. You’ll save about $50 per 1k rounds. A barrel life is normally about 6k-8k rounds (depending on how you shoot). A barrel that shoots only steel will be about 4.5k rounds... at which point you will have saved over $200 and should have budgeted for a new barrel. Thanks for explaining why this is embarrassing but I thought the the projectile couldn't be steel but I guess the casing is what's important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 hours ago, lilmidtown said: Thanks for explaining why this is embarrassing but I thought the the projectile couldn't be steel but I guess the casing is what's important The projectile isn’t steel as most people recognize steel. It is a polymetal, mixed with steel. Often the other metals included are tin and copper. The mixture is much softer than a pure iron based steel product. You can test your cartridges with a simple magnet to see if there is steel or not. Another issue with steel is the lacquer coating they put on the outside to preserve the metal. The lacquer coated cartridges were designed for the piston driven systems like the AK variants and all the HK and Steyr models. Our DI AR system dumps a lot of HOT gas inside the chamber. This isn’t an issue for standard brass casings. If you are an impatient shooter, the chamber can get hot enough to soften and possibly melt the lacquer. Cleaning it out isn’t an issue... but lacquer build up can cause loading/chambering issues until you can clean it out real well. My suggestion... FWIW... if you want to shoot a LOT of steel cases ammo... like thousands and thousands... build a dedicated, piston operated, firearm. The ammo isn’t accurate enough to waste a good barrel on. An inexpensive, but quality built, Faxon barrel will do absolutely everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 11:39 AM, shepp said: https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammo-sale/308-win-762x51-ammo This ammo shoots well in my M1a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, mrmackc said: This ammo shoots well in my M1a. Mr Mac, like to hear more about your M1A impressions. Glad your finally getting a chance to use it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hey Mrmack how are you doin these days ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I am slowly doing better. Luckily we have a new range that has opened 20 miles from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Speedy recovery Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmidtown Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Thanks to you all my FFL is getting the ammo for me so as far as shooting it's going to be my first time shooting 7.62-51 what's the difference as far as feel while shooting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 None. If so it’s all in your head. That or your more sensitive than the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 51 minutes ago, edgecrusher said: None. If so it’s all in your head. That or your more sensitive than the rest of us. Lol seriously though. It’s not much worse that the smaller format rifle. It’s a lot better than blasting an old bolt action rifle in the same caliber. The recoil and impulse of the rifle can be tamed after it’s been shot. New buffer, buffer spring, gas block, muzzle device... all possible modifications that can assist in reducing the kick. No two rifles are the same. It’s all about finding the “cocktail” that works for you and your rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, lilmidtown said: Thanks to you all my FFL is getting the ammo for me so as far as shooting it's going to be my first time shooting 7.62-51 what's the difference as far as feel while shooting it I thought he was asking the difference between.308 and 7.62x51. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, edgecrusher said: I thought he was asking the difference between.308 and 7.62x51. My bad Oh crap. Maybe? I didn’t even think about that. Might be MY bad. The 7.62x51 is slightly anemic compared to quality .308 win. Especially if you’re used to match 168gr or 175gr. Those little Mil spec 147gr just pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmidtown Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, edgecrusher said: I thought he was asking the difference between.308 and 7.62x51. My bad I was haha thank you for clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmidtown Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Robocop1051 said: Oh crap. Maybe? I didn’t even think about that. Might be MY bad. The 7.62x51 is slightly anemic compared to quality .308 win. Especially if you’re used to match 168gr or 175gr. Those little Mil spec 147gr just pop. I've been using 150 Hornady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, lilmidtown said: I've been using 150 Hornady That’s my “go to” hunting round. I’ve killed a LOT of shit with that bullet, from rabbits to black bears. Great round!! You won’t feel a thing if that’s your usual round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: That’s my “go to” hunting round. I’ve killed a LOT of poop with that bullet, from rabbits to black bears. Great round!! You won’t feel a thing if that’s your usual round. Did you ever find the rabbits?... Those fuckers are usually only made in FDE, like deer - and they're hard enough to find BEFORE you shoot them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: Did you ever find the rabbits?... Those fuckers are usually only made in FDE, like deer - and they're hard enough to find BEFORE you shoot them... You can find a wet red crater where the rabbit was when you shot it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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