Old timer experienced with GENUINE AR 10 rifles, AI Portuguese and Sudanes joining up

[Microgunner]

The Silverback will come.

[Sisco]

To be honest, nobody is doing themselves proud on this thread.

[Matt.Cross]

To be honest, nobody is doing themselves proud on this thread.

I agree wholeheartedly, after this gets settled it's getting nuked.

[Lazerus2000]

I will go make a sandwich now.

But the truth IS out there.

You will see that the baboon/Silverback made up his claim about the Glock BS.

 

And yes I agree,

if I get to stay, nuke the thread.

 

I am certainly not too proud of some of the things I said in heat.

 

Instead of getting into a peeing contest,

I should have just,

gone and made a sandwich..

[Sisco]

I don't mind saying I voted for him to stay. I may not have agreed with what Lazarus said all the time, but I learned some things from him about the Canadian black rifle Market I did not know before, and I did not see anything worth getting banned from a forum for. Plus I am guessing I could learn some things about M1A gunsmithing if I wanted to from his posts. Sometimes we all need to take a deep breath and step back. There are some tight friendships and inside jokes on this forum, and a newbie can't be expected to know them right off the bat, so the Anal Lube bit probably took him by surprise. Plus, how is he supposed to know the pecking order? Someone can always be banned from a forum, but it should be for continued behaviour detrimental to the forum. This isn't near to that yet.

Anyway, that is my take on things after reading the thread.

Edited April 24, 2015 by Sisco

[shepp]

I agree sisco but I think Internet forums are like bars, or shooting range club houses or any other social gathering. I wouldn't walk into a strange bar spouting off at the mouth and not expect people to be annoyed at the same time other patorons wouldn't let some noob talk ill about a fellow regular. But maybe that's just how I am........

[98Z5V]

According to his bravado, he has owned over 100 Glocks...  I can dig up that post if necessary.

 

PUT YUR MONEY WHERE YUR MOUTH IS!!

 

DIG UP THAT POST OR SHUT IT!

 

i have posted on a lot of different gun sites, but I have NEVER said that I owned over 100 Glocks.

What I HAVE said, is that I have personall owned OVER 100 1911 Govt model type pistols, many of which I built from piles/ of parts..

 

I can understand it that you might not know the difference between a Glock and a 1911 type pistol so I am including a few pictures to aid you.

 

Oh, I'm here, Mouth Of The Great White North.  I'll tell you this, and admit it - I fucked up.  You have SO MUCH BULLSCHIT all over the internet, that I made a mistake.  Your schit is everywhere - with no, and I mean ZERO - substantial proof.  Nothing.  Well, nothing but you saying it.

 

Here's what fucked me up:

 

Primary basis of bullschit is what you post on prepperforums:

http://www.prepperforums.net/forum/search.php?searchid=763779

 

Link right to the post, which shows that you're a copy/paste guy, with nothing new or original:

http://www.prepperforums.net/forum/pistols-revolvers/4974-glock-40-s-w-357-sig.html#post67127

 

You stated:

 

 

Glock must have changed something.

I have owned a couple of dozen Glock pistols, ranging from the G26 and G27 up to three of the G35s.

I once owned a Glock 35, 22, and 23 [all Gen 3 versions] all at the same time.

 

Later, you throw this down, and this is the one that got me crossed up:

http://www.prepperforums.net/forum/pistols-revolvers/4903-need-new-handgun.html#post61290

 

You stated:

 

 

I have personally owned well over 100 pistols, and worked on a few hundred more for paying customers as a professional gun smith. When I gave up IPSC competitive shooting after more than a decade and became more interested in CCW/PRACTICAL pistols, I switched over from the Govt model pistols to the Glocks. IMHO, the Glock pistols are simply the best pistol choice for real world carry.

 

Got any IPSC results for us? 

 

I'll be back with more, Scary Larry, but I think your own words will come to haunt you.  You have managed to turn into your own exact post:

 

 

September 24th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #3

Lazerus2000

Old Salt

 

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: Canada

Posts: 1,590

 

One of the GREAT things about the M14 forum is the VERY high level of knowledge amongst the general membership.

AND ALSO,

the high degree of competence, patience, and dedication OF THE HARD WORKING MODERATORS, who toil behind the scene TO MAINTAIN THE HIGH STANDARDS HERE AT THE M14 forum. We all know of other gun forums which have turned from once useful and valid sites to TOXIC WASTE DUMPS, where TROLLS, SHILLS and WANNABEES with big opinions and little experience or knowledge have been allowed to take over.

Some of the posters here on the M14 forum are GENUINE EXPERTS regarding the good ol' M14, with well earned world renowned reputations based on their extensive real world experience MILITARY AND CIVILIAN at inspecting, maintaining, repairing, trouble shooting, tuning, or even full house rebuilding. These GENUINE experts' postings about the M14 - the theories behind the way it should work, and the realities of how it actually does work in the real world - are CREDIBLE.

Then there are the TROLLS, the SHILLS, and the WANNABEES [ those who want to be seen as experts, but simply don't have the YEARS of EXPERIENCE, the hard won technical KNOWLEDGE, or the PROVEN SKILLS ] to back up their spurious claims to "expert status. These posters are NOT CREDIBLE.

It is up to each individual reader to decide on the credibility of each post and each poster all on their own. But, with the M14 Forum, as with life itself,

ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL IS GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.

Fortunately for the integrity of the M14 Forum site, people here take their guns SERIOUSLY. Maybe it is because they are AMERICANS ... and all us non-Yankees know how serious you 'Mericans can be about your guns.

[;)

Or maybe it is because the general membership here has a significant percentage of ex-military, who have BTDT with the M14, and who know how serious posting about the M14 SHOULD be taken. There is no room for BS in combat, and little patience amongst combat veterans for BSers in general. And even less patience for those who give bad advice about a tool that potentially might be involved in a life or death incident.

So the more serious members here occasionally form a posse and chase out the offenders.

Or ridicule a Wannabee or Troll or Shill until he leaves on his own ...

and then complains on other gun sites about the bad attitude at the M14 forum.

Oh well,

Too bad,

SO sad,

such is life.

To the members and the genuine experts and the hard working moderators,

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK,

and a BIG

ATTABOY to you all,

from your Northern Neighbor,

who has never fired an M14 in anger [wellll ... a few times I've been angry at myself or at the rifle or at the ammunition ... but we all know that doesn't really count, now does it?]

But who loves, respects, and enjoys INTELLIGENT INFORMED conversations about the M14 as much as you Yankees do. And who get's his best fix rightv here at the M14 Forum.

TTFN

LAZ 1

[;)

LAZ 1

Edited April 24, 2015 by 98Z5V

[98Z5V]

I like how you lasted 8 whole posts over a six-year period at quarterbore - they just didn't buy into your bullschiit:

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/search.php?searchid=526571

 

i also can't understand why you didn't address me sooner - you saw my post.  You just didn't have the intestinal fortitude to say anything, until you had time to think about it, and formulate your response.  That's weak.  Break out your Vagisil, sister.

 

In reference to me not knowing the difference between a Glock and a 1911, well, that's just a comment made in rage - or idiocy - when you don't know someone, haven't looked into them, but just want to make a childish comment.  In your case, it was probably a combination of stupidity, ignorance, bravado, and a serious lack of research skills.  If I had to split ll those categories up into "Vegas-Odds,"  I'd put the higher numbers on the stupidity and pure ignorance.

 

 

You're apparently not intelligent enough to read the 1911 thread here.  Those are the Kimber 1911s that I own.  In fact, I prefer a 1911 over any other pistol.  Lemme help you out:

 

Finally, here's the difference between me and YOU, Larry.

 

This is "Scary Larry" - you look like a fucking Mall Ninja, and you're not very "scary..."

 

 

 

Now, this is me.  This pic was taken in Afghanistan.  Those white snow-covered mountains in the background - that's not Afghanistan.  That's a bordering country.  That valley floor - way down there - it's elevation is 8,000 feet, on the valley floor...  I'm the guy on the far left in the pic.

 

 

 

You talk about it.  I do it.  There's a big difference between you and me.  My Terp was 54 years old, and after his helicopter ride into that valley at 1am local, he had quit - he was done.  When the sun came up, he was ready to leave.  I had to give that guy one HELL of a war speech just to get him to stay.  He still wasn't gonna climb that mountain, though.  I took 4 guys up that damn hill with all our gear, cleared the top, and left 2, and dropped gear.  2 of us went back down with no gear, picked up the last guy and my Terp - and I took my Terp's gear up the damn hill.  Once in place, we ROCKED that job.

 

That's the difference between you and ME.  You're a talker...

 

You still didn't address the anal lube, and that GIANT stick in your ass.  Why not?...

 

Have a GREAT fucking night!... 

[98Z5V]

Hey Larry, if you SQUINT really hard at that pic, you'll notice a few things that really stand out.  On those uniforms, there's only a nametape, a U.S.Army tape, and GLINT TAPE.  There's no rank, no unit patches...  You might ask yourself a question - "I thought EVERYBODY in the Regular Army had to wear unit patches and rank on their uniform?..."  <dontknow>

 

I left you another clue in my post, but I think you're too fucking stupid to deduce it.  We'll see.

 

That will answer your question.  Sleep well, sister.  <thumbsup>

Edited April 24, 2015 by 98Z5V

[MikedaddyH]

This thread is done ! FLUSH !

[Magwa]

Scary how this picture reminds me of 98's picture you take one look and you do not have to wonder about anything, these men they did not even have to talk the talk,  either did the Men in 98's Picture...... They are the WALK....!

 

[blue109]

That pic is pretty rad.

[planeflyer21]

Geronimo is the man!  As Teddy R. said about Geronimo's activities, "The irony is I would have done exactly the same thing!"

 

My favorite is they did a raid in Arizona and then, with warriors, women, and children, were confirmed to be 180 miles into Mexico three days later.

[Lazerus2000]

 

Oh, I'm here, Mouth Of The Great White North.  I'll tell you this, and admit it - I fucked up.  

 

So you "Fucked up"....  and made up something about me THAT WAS UNTRUE ....

just to win a stupid argument on the internet just to protect your pissing rights as the dominant BABOON ?

now that is definitely NOT how I define personal integrity.

 

 

This is "Scary Larry" - you look like a fucking Mall Ninja, and you're not very "scary..."

 

 

Now don't be disrespecting Mall Ninjas.  They often grow up to become Mall Security Specialists, and they ARE the TRUE unsung heroes of protecting America's most vulnerable heart ... the thing that defines your culture better than anything .. the MEGA malls. Forget Homeland IN-security and their fascist (yet bumbling ) attempts to   create social control through FEAR ( a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR GROWTH INDUSTRY  ... with sadly no end in sight). Without those dedicated professional Mall Security Specialists,  protecting America's god given right to go shopping in safety for anything, at any time, the civilian support structure would crumble, and  America would soon follow.

 

Don't think that fat old guys can be heroes too?  Just go watch Paul Blart in action ... his two BLOCKBUSTER action thrillers have definitely touched the hearts and minds of the American public, the common people, the average citizens, if not the MILITARY EITE.  These average American moviegoers, in their millions,  seem to appreciate fat old men with delusions of grandeur, who just don't know when to quit, much more than you do.

 

 

 

SERIOUSLY DUDE, thank you for your service.  I don't envy you your experience.  You earned my respect for that.

 

BUT,

on my usual less serious note,

if you want to earn my respect on this site, 

you will have to do better than calling me names, and inviting in your old pals to join you in flinging feces at the new guy.

And  if you think you can intimidate me with pictures of heavily armed faceless soldiers, you don't know what TRUELY scary people look like. 

 

My last career spanned over a decade working with a dedicated, elite, tough ... yet fair ... tactical unit.  Our motto was,

" You can fleece a sheep every year, but you can only skin it once."  And we fleeced close to skin.  My team didn't need crude weapons like guns to intimidate.  No they used thick books full of accounting law, and SHARP pencils.  And some of the toughest guys went Commando ... they didn't have no steenkin erasers on their pencils, no sir.

 

Talk about TOUGH ... why even the most seasoned tax evader quivvered in fear when my boys got on their trail.

YEAH, I never got to be the guy wearing no patches on my uniform, 

but

They also serve who sit and wait.. 

 

And I am just as proud of my service to keeping my country flourishing,

collecting pennies from stingy old ladies, and keeping the millstone of oppression grinding away....

by my time served as an IT guy for the Tax department.

 

 

P S: I don' t have the urge to cyber stalk you like you are   doing with me,

so I won't take you up on your kind offer to go over to the .45 Govt section and read up.

 But judging from what you posted  here, does owning a few Kimbers really  qualify you as a Govt Model expert??  

 

Much as I respect the KIMBER brand as a great value, one of the best bangs for the buck now available commercially, I consider that Norince, with FORGED FRAME and SLIDE, and properly modifed with high quality aftermarket parts such as a coned barrel and captured recoil plug, every bit as good as a Kimber ... and at half the cost.   I built a lot of my Govt model pistols on the old Randall Stainless steel frames and slides.  Both were 17-4 PH steel, with the slides DOUBLE heat treated to eliminate galling.  Those old RANDALL pistols were TOUGH. 

 

As for my IpSC credentials, I started in 1980, and shot till 1992.  Shot in dozens of  Provincial Championships and a few Canadian National Championships. The last Can Champs I shot as a member of the BC provincial team ranked  # 17 in the province ... # 80 something OAL in the Canadian only standings.  mostly,  I was just another one of the "also rans" in the background.  

 

I shot that little Detonics/Randall Le May mini gun hybrid in the picture for my first few years in IPSC.  Made B class with it.  Best I ever did was 3rd OAL in a provincial IPSC match ( very poorly attended ... only a few dozen showed up)..  I never shot to compete with anyone else but myself ... although I did get a kick out of the looks on the faces on those very rare occasions when I beat some one with a tricked out, full house custom  pistol. But by shooting that Detonics, i got in with some of the old original team Detonics guys, who were TRULY practical shooters.  Some of them shot with Detonics Combat Masters, similar to my hybrid,  And one crazy guy shot with NO SIGHTS!!  A little known fact is that the original Detonics pistols were designed to be carried cocked and UN-locked, with the safety off, AND UN-cocked as well.  The massive slide lightening cut was required for quick and easy access to cock the hammer.  and as a side benefit, the super short and super light reciprocating mass made for the fastest trigger reset known in any Govt model pistol.  On quick and dirty, close up PRACTICAL stages, the Detonics gave away nothing.

 

When I finally gave up on my one man mission to stay PRACTICAL, and started craving better scores, i started in building on the Canadian original Para Ordnance duble stack mag frames.  At first these were only available in ALLOY, and only as frame only kits.  I am proud to admit that I built two of the first Para pistols SEEN IN iPsc MATCHES on the west coast of Canada.  Unfortunately, I was also one of the first Gunsmiters to learn the compensating an ALLOY para was not a good thing.  the downward pressure of the comp at the front had too much leverage, AND worked the trigger bow relief cut at the back causing very early frame cracking.  Para soon offered their STEEL frames as kits, and I built a steel framed double stack that boosted my scores 20 % over my Detonics/Randall mini gun.  

 

And incidentally, at the time, while many IpSc shooters turned to the .38 STUPID cartridge as the ONLY solution for MAJOR, I stuck with the .45.  Conventional wisdom ... everyone just KNEW it... said that a compensator on a .45 is  totally useless, with all of the gas pressure  fading away in three or four inches.  I contradicted conventional wisdom by actually testing for myself in the real world. I experimented with lower slide weight, heavier barrels and comps ( which were only a part of the reciprocating mass equation for a short period ) and ended up with a comped govt .45 that used  FULL POWERED RECOIL SPRINGS.  This improved reliabilty on feeding and speeded up trigger reset time.  

 

Once I got that part of the equation sorted out I turned to finding a .45 ACP load that would still generate enough gas at the ports to be effective.  This was achieved with copious amounts of Win 231 powder behind a proprietary Canadian 158 gr HARD cast lead bullet. ( Drew s Bullets which later became OMA Bullets ).  I easily achieved MAJOR power factors of 180 with this load in a 5" compensated barrel.    Recoil and muzzle flip  could be tuned with lightened slides and shaping the ports until double tap range was greatly extended.  And accuraccy was superb ... my Full Sized standard Class NOT comped match pistol could do 8 shots into 2.5" at 50 yds.  Good enough for Govt work.

 

My experiments with these utralight loads, and my enthusiasm for Bowling Pin matches, drew me into becoming one of the very first early adopters of .45 SUPER.  With Detonics already offering their proprietary, slightly longer  .45 D magnum loads and chamberings   right from the factory, I shot their proprietary offerings for a while. But by merely shortening.45 D  case OAL, .45 SUPER brass was readily available.  And with RAMPED .45 barrels appearing on thhe scene, .45 SUPER became a very viable and attractive option.  Can you say Grizzly Protection Gun?? .45 Super was definitely NOT for the faint of heart, especially in those early years, before serious load development was done.  I actually blew the lugs right off of a SS barrel during my early experiments with un-ramped barrels.  I won't publish my loads, but I will state for the record that  I chronoed over 1400 FPS with 180 gr bullets, and 1250 FPS  with Hornady 230 FP Ball.  This was out of a 6" barrel, with a comp, and was definitely on the wrong side of sanity.

 

So there you have a small example of my experience with the 1911 Govt model pistols.  Unfortunately, due to medical reasons, i had to give up shooting heavy recoiling pistols.  And in fact, at this time i do not personally own any pistols ... traded off my  NEW UNFIRED GLOCK 22 GEN 3.5 with a SS  6" .357 SIG  barrel, and a BIG bag of factory .357 SIG ammo.  These days, with my limp wrist issues, all I can shoot without pain is a .22 LR.  I am seriously thinking of getting one of the GSG .33 LR clones.  Gotta keep shooting ... something ... right?.

 

Does that answer your question??

 

 

Have a GREAT fucking night!... 

 

I did ... slept like a baby after an hour in the hot tub, and going for a walk around the lake 50 yds from my back door.  

 

PS:  While I am deeply flattered that you care enough about me to forage relentlessly around the internet for my postings, you really should stop. 

 It is no longer funny, and it has gone beyond the bounds of rational behavior into obsession and cyber-stalking.  

Believe me, your friends have noticed and are worried about you.  

Perhaps even now they are planning an intervention?

 

So why don't we both just stop pissing on the tree, and go get some sandwiches?

 

Sincerely,

your Pal 

(meant only in a PLATONIC manner)

Larry

[Matt.Cross]

More windstorms are forecasted for the near future, just a heads up to everyone.

[Microgunner]

What's a Paul Blart?

[Magwa]

[EasyEJL]

What's a Paul Blart?

some sort of Canadian scatological sex act I think

[Matt.Cross]

some sort of Canadian scatological sex act I think

Canadian Rusty Trombone?

[Microgunner]

I've  lived a sheltered life.

[blue109]

Michael Jackson has gone through several bags of popcorn.

[Lazerus2000]

More windstorms are forecasted for the near future, just a heads up to everyone.

Matt,

on the assumption that i will be cast out, kicked off the island,

I would like to/leave you with these FINAL thoughts.

If /when you boot me, i won't come back.

 

I am merely a fart in a windstorm beside a true master Gun Troll  like Melvin ... aka gunkid, hardin, and a hundred other names. 

 

Poor Ol Melvin  ... he actually DID have some interesting out of the box, off the wall, totally crazy, ? innovative fresh thinking? ideas.

 

To this day people still mock Melvin's famous "Tactical Wheelbarrow" concept.

 

 But ask the Mormons, who pushed hand carts loaded down with everything they owned, over harsh terrain, for hundreds of miles,  if a hand pushed cart is PRACTICAL.  Today, they even have hardy re-enactors crazy enough to try to do it.

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_mormonhandcarts.html

 

Or wander on down to your local Cabellas and check out their wide selection of "game carts" and note the similarities to Melvin's ground breaking work in the area.  i wonder if any of the  "TACTICAL/Practical/Hunting/Game carrying CART" manufactureseven acknowledges poor ol Melvin's contributions to their product line.

 

John Melvin Davis ... the worlds best known Gun troll.

Or perhaps merely a man ahead od his time?

 

BUT,

while Melvin was often quite entertaining ... in a bandwidth sucking, low fog factor kind of way ... he was usually real pain for mods Bhe was alos but quite often funny as all hell to the average forum reader.  AS LONG AS YOU DIDN'T TAKE YOURSELF OR MELVIN TOO SERIOUSLY, having a vist from Melvin was GENUINE ENTERTAINMENT.  His 9 always short) visits often increased interest and readership oi those forums he graced with his presence.

 

However,

much as we could admire poor ol melvin,

The TRUE King of the internet Gun trolls has to be Gecko45.  

 

While Melvin bludgeoned you, Gecko seduced his readers with wit, wisdom, satire, hyperbole, and  a truly warped sense of humor, Gecko had CREDIBILTY ...  he truly could talk the talk and you sensed that he truly could  walk it too.  His genuine knowledge, and his ability to start of with something CREDIBLE, only a teensy bit crazy, and then tint step bt tint step make you crazy,  soon had his readers running full speed down the hill and arguing about really IN-credible things.  And best of all, he managed to deflate  a few puffed up balloons/egos, and make us laugh at ourselves.  

The man truly had class.

 

Where is Gecko when you need him?

 

I am merely a fart in the windstorm beside Melvin and Gecko.

 

But, annoying as I can admittedly be,

I am still a better human being than those who exhiiibit Baboon like dominance tendenis, and are allowed to pack up throw feces at new comers.  I am NOT the first new guy the baboon has tried to run off.

You know it.  

And you have allowed it.

 

Own your part in this, O of man of integrity.

 

AS we say up here in canuckistan,

TTFN

[Microgunner]

Larry, calm down and take your medication. And then consider contributing expertise, not boasting, on the many threads you'll find at 308AR.

The vast majority of our bandwidth is used for meaningful information sharing. Give it a try.

Everyone respects true knowledge, no one respects boasting, except in jest.

[Matt.Cross]

Matt,

... Edited for brevity ...

AS we say up here in canuckistan,

TTFN

I can and do appreciate the humor, what I would appreciate more would be brevity, sincerity, and succinctness. You can surely convey your points in a paragraph or two, rather than the dizzying and nausea inducing dictionaries you're writing here.

[blue109]

For the record, I think I was the first vote for keeping you around.

With that said...for someone whose time is too valuable to assemble an 308AR from parts, you sure make some long winded posts!

My vote hasnt changed though. You have contributed to my life, and I appreciate that. If it wasnt for this shenanigans, I wouldnt have known about whorebacon.