MaDuce Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) A friend of mine swears up and down that the people who make the Desert Eagle (which would be MRI, IMI CMI and IWI) make or made a liquid cooled Desert Eagle and swears he has one. Firstly, I AM aware of the use of water jackets in early machine guns as well as some modern artillery and I DID ask to see his Desert Eagles, which he has not shown me yet though to be fair to him, he hasn't had much of an opportunity to do so as of yet. Furthermore, I myself have a Desert Eagle in .44 Magnum and helped CMI improve the followers to the Desert Eagle factory magazines in exchange for several magazines for my own gun. Needless to say, I am no fool when it comes to the inner workings of this gun. To me the biggest problem with a liquid cooling system for the Desert Eagle is that; for it to work effectively it would have to encircle the barrel and the barrel of the Desert Eagle is heavily integrated with many other functions of the gun, so adding a water jacket to a Desert Eagle, much like any other modern handgun would cripple most of the guns other mandatory functions if you could even do it without downright removing essential components like the slide. But the fellow also says that this is well known and well used technology in modern firearms and has even gone so far as accusing me of being poorly educated, way behind or something like that for not being aware of it. I already know the overall truth as I have pointed out, but literally for the sake of argument, can someone explain to me any truth behind any of these claims, if anything at all? Edited August 3, 2014 by MaDuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Well if the Desert Eagle got any bigger, it could use the same holster as a Browning M1917 water cooled machine gun. SERIOUSLY, I don't see how, and I really don't see a need, unless it was a machine pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted August 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Well if the Desert Eagle got any bigger, it could use the same holster as a Browning M1917 water cooled machine gun. SERIOUSLY, I don't see how, and I really don't see a need, unless it was a machine pistol. LOL. Yeah, that's another point. Have you ever seen the cycle rate on a Desert Eagle? It's an AK47 in slow motion. That in a gun with a 7 (.50AE) to 10 (.357) round magazine. I watched a destruction test on an AR15 which has a similar barrel thickness but produces much more friction heat. They went through something like 300-500 rounds in full auto while reloading at a pretty modest rate before the barrel finally gave. Desert Eagle is probably 1/3 the cycle speed of an AR15 and; at most, 1/3 the ammo capacity. I'll have to call MRI and ask them if they ever managed to get a barrel failure during destruction testing but I personally can't see how you're going to pull that off even intentionally. The Desert Eagle has to be pretty low on the list of guns that could ever possibly benefit in any practical way from a water jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Diss Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Brother- The rules of bar bets states that you're under no obligation to prove him wrong. He must prove to you that he's right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Achieving a liquid-cooled handgun is as simple as tossing it into the nearest liquid-filled container after getting it hot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Like these dumbasses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Duce I got 2000yards of ocean front property I'll sell you in AZ REAL CHEAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokey Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 The cycle rate on a Desert eagle can be high. I've seen where they can even triple on a person, without the person knowing. I generally try to be open minded (within reason) but, a water cooled desert eagle, I'm not biting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Are you sure he's not talking about a liquid cooled suppressor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Achieving a liquid-cooled handgun is as simple as tossing it into the nearest liquid-filled container after getting it hot.... Or pouring the rest of my beer over the barrel while shooting one handed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Maybe the .50AE scares the piss outta him when he's shooting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Ed, that poop ain't funny....tell Duce the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 LOL. Somehow I knew someone was going to mention something about dunking the gun in liquid. The cycle rate on a Desert eagle can be high. I've seen where they can even triple on a person, without the person knowing. I generally try to be open minded (within reason) but, a water cooled desert eagle, I'm not biting. I'm with you 100% on everything but the cycle rate of a Desert Eagle. Maybe the .357 is super fast but the .44 through .50AE....no way. You can actually feel the slide "thadump" when you fire it much like an AK but even slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolndie7 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Its true, Ive seen a water cooled desert eagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 that's much too small to be a desert Eagle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 its probably made out of titanium and unobtanium too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well, having a .44 Desert Eagle. I couldn't imagine how you could put any kind of water jacket around the barrel to make it effective. Plus....the damn thing is heavy enough without adding any kind of water weight to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) It's for brewing your coffee in the morning. Feeds directly from your camelback. 20 or 30 rounds into the nearest bad guy and DING....coffee time. Don't you guys know nothin? Edited August 5, 2014 by Microgunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I stand corrected. Why didn't I think of that? <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's for brewing your coffee in the morning. Feeds directly from your camelback. 20 or 30 rounds into the nearest bad guy and DING....coffee time. Don't you guys know nothin? HAY!! That's a great idea!! Update. I called up MRI today with the speaker phone on and him very close and asked them if they do or ever made a liquid cooled Desert Eagle or know any aftermarket companies who make such an add on. He said no and I thanked him and hung up. Not another word has been said in this debate ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokey Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 LOL. Somehow I knew someone was going to mention something about dunking the gun in liquid. I'm with you 100% on everything but the cycle rate of a Desert Eagle. Maybe the .357 is super fast but the .44 through .50AE....no way. You can actually feel the slide "thadump" when you fire it much like an AK but even slower. It was a .357 and it cycled much faster than I'd ever guess. The person got it fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) It was a .357 and it cycled much faster than I'd ever guess. The person got it fixed. The .357 Magnum MARK I shoots like a normal gun. But the .44 Magnum MARK VII up are totally different ballgames. IMO, the .357 Magnum MARK I is the only Desert Eagle that's actually a practical firearm. The rest are just big fireworks with killing potential. Despite what the owner says, the gun in this scene is actually a .44 Magnum MARK VII, not the claimed .50AE. The part where he's shooting at the wall gives a pretty good sense of how the gun really shoots. That is to say, the recoil you imagine by watching it is probably not far from the way it really shoots. Edited August 6, 2014 by MaDuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I learn all my shootin stuff from B movie crime dramas too. An underappreciated resource. Edited August 6, 2014 by Microgunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaDuce Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomeister Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Did anyone notice that at 1:13 and 1:50 he "fired" 2 rounds but only got one muzzle flash? Must be that new water-cooled Stealth Gun, damps out the flash so no one knows where you are at night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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