Robocop1051 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Who uses them? I need to sight in a .45 ACP with a red dot. I've never sighted in pistol mounted optic before. It seems like it'd get me set-up quick at 25 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Do you have a 308 laser bore cartridge ? If so, stick that in your 45. It has the same base. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Dane Armory said: Do you have a 308 laser bore cartridge ? If so, stick that in your 45. It has the same base. Good luck. I don't think the 308 is a good match for 45 ACP chamber , it may droop or be pulled to one side , even if being held with the Extractor & give a false reading. I would use a rest & dial it in at short range & then move up in ranges , the Bore laser is a good Idea , but I have found , because of spin drift & other factors , they still need to be shot to see where they print on target. Some Lasers are very difficult to see in the day time , anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I've never had good results with any of the "in-barrel" sight alignment devices. By good I mean solid, repeatable. I agree with SS. Start close and get it close. Remember: MOA is mucho mas clicks up close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I've got the 308 chamber style laser and the Bushnell that slides into the muzzle, gave up using them due to the large and variable results. If you want to try them I will sell them cheap but with a no returns disclaimer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malig8r Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I just purchased the Sightmark Triple Duty Universal Green Laser Boresight. Haven't used it yet because I just got it in the mail this week. I agree with those who posted above that with a pistol it shouldn't take many rounds to get that bad boy dialed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Never had much luck with my .223 laser boresighter. Gave up and do it now the old fashioned way. lets me shoot off more ammo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 hours ago, jtallen83 said: I've got the 308 chamber style laser and the Bushnell that slides into the muzzle, gave up using them due to the large and variable results. If you want to try them I will sell them cheap but with a no returns disclaimer! There are a couple of dumb tricks I have used with these lasers but they are so Texas goofy I am ashamed to post on a prestigious site as this so send them to me and I won't tell anyone where they came from. They should be worth a $20 green back if they are sent snail mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I have to get these raised sights squared away. I'm printing about 8" low at 25 yards. I figure if the sights get spot on, I can cowitness the red dot from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 bore lasers are great for mounting new sights or scopes, never had much use for them beyond getting the general area. still can safe a lot of time and rounds if you aren't hitting paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: I have to get these raised sights squared away. I'm printing about 8" low at 25 yards. I figure if the sights get spot on, I can cowitness the red dot from there. At 25 yards that should be close enough to win a cigar. That is long range for me with a semi-automatic pistol. I shot a couple of metallic silhouette matches with my 1911 .45 when my Super Blackhawk was out of action. I actually hit two rams (100 yds) out of 10 shots. One fell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: I have to get these raised sights squared away. I'm printing about 8" low at 25 yards. I figure if the sights get spot on, I can cowitness the red dot from there. Is that off a rest ? Front sight Blade too high ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I've got an in-barrel (muzzle end) laser that I use everytime I install a new optic - it gets it close enough to head to the range and conduct a zero, and not have to worry about it not being on the paper the first trigger pull. I don't even know what brand it is, but I've had it a damn long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yep, I just try to remember what the purpose is for doing boresighting. Learned it by doing 105 and 175 howitzer. Nothing really can replace the live fireing sight in. Maybe there is a computer program or simulator but not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, survivalshop said: Is that off a rest ? Front sight Blade too high ? That was me just fuckin around at the range with a new toy. I put suppressor sights on it and I think I need to go down a size in the front. This longer slide/barrel is fuckin up the expected sight radius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I have a Wheeler green laser magnetic bore sighter. It also comes with a highly reflective 12"x12" graph to be easily seen in daytime. Use it for every new sight i mount. It goes on the end of your muzzle not inside bore. Works great unless you forget and buy a SS muzzle break LOL. Its only to get me on paper, thats all most bore sight companies say anyway. I still fine tune my optic the old fashion way once on paper. You can waste a lot of ammo sighting in a new optic...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 11/4/2016 at 1:04 AM, Dane Armory said: Do you have a 308 laser bore cartridge ? If so, stick that in your 45. It has the same base. Good luck. Mike, have you ever tried doing that? A 308 case won't even seat into a 45 ACP chamber! It runs into the chamber shoulder and stops about one inch short of going in all the way. Not even close to working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 43 minutes ago, 392heminut said: Mike, have you ever tried doing that? A 308 case won't even seat into a 45 ACP chamber! It runs into the chamber shoulder and stops about one inch short of going in all the way. Not even close to working! Ohh damm ! I didn't think that through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 11/5/2016 at 5:16 AM, JJ109 said: I have a Wheeler green laser magnetic bore sighter. It also comes with a highly reflective 12"x12" graph to be easily seen in daytime. Use it for every new sight i mount. It goes on the end of your muzzle not inside bore. Works great unless you forget and buy a SS muzzle break LOL. Its only to get me on paper, thats all most bore sight companies say anyway. I still fine tune my optic the old fashion way once on paper. You can waste a lot of ammo sighting in a new optic...... JJ right on, many shooters don't realize that the reason is to have a method to check the crude alignment of the scope sight to the travel path of the bullet in order to hit the paper by aligning the variable adjustment of the scope reticle for both safety of the area down range and to save ammo in zeroing the scope. Not to split hairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 6 hours ago, 392heminut said: Mike, have you ever tried doing that? A 308 case won't even seat into a 45 ACP chamber! It runs into the chamber shoulder and stops about one inch short of going in all the way. Not even close to working! Nothing the judicious application of a rubber mallet won't cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 I have never installed a scope that was so far off at 25 yards , it would make it unsafe to shoot down range . It only takes about three of four rounds to adj. the scope at 25 yards to make sure its on paper at 100 yards , then a couple more rounds to center it at 100. This thread is about a pistol anyway so all this talk about scopes means nothing . All the talk about wasting ammo while sighting in any firearm is kinda like saying practice is bad for your aim 9 hours ago, 392heminut said: Mike, have you ever tried doing that? A 308 case won't even seat into a 45 ACP chamber! It runs into the chamber shoulder and stops about one inch short of going in all the way. Not even close to working! This makes sense ,when you think about it , shows how much i know about them , like almost nothing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 I may have had scopes that far off before. haha. and does a thread ever stay on track around here?... oh look boobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, ARTrooper said: I may have had scopes that far off before. haha. and does a thread ever stay on track around here?... oh look boobs! Nope and we're fine with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, planeflyer21 said: Nothing the judicious application of a rubber mallet won't cure. Or I could grind off 0.003" of the diameter of the laser bore bullet gauge ! Edited November 14, 2016 by MikedaddyH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, ARTrooper said: I may have had scopes that far off before. haha. and does a thread ever stay on track around here?... oh look boobs! I heard boobs...I don't see any. What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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