EngrBob Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, COBrien said: I'm more worried about a serious re-visit of the "Assault Weapons Ban." So... I purchased 2 insurance policies this morning. 1 FAR-15 lower and 1 FAR-308 lower. Trying to beat the price increase and scarcity that will follow. Great minds - I have one of each in their respective jigs waiting on the shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 White House says it's "too early" to call this an act of domestic terrorism. Well... What else could it be? A misunderstanding? A 'Nam flashback? "Workplace violence"? What legitimate explanation could there be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) They said he just went from rifle to rifle to shoot at people & that he purchased a select fire AR 15 to use , I find that all odd , first if he used all or some of the rifles to shoot , they would all be full auto , from what I could hear from the videos , their was long strings of full auto , much more then 30 rds. , I have shot 100 rd mags from an M16 & thats about what it sounded like , we would say i could go get a beer while the mag emptied . I think he illegally converted one or more rifles to fire full auto or something similar & thats all he used , except the one he used on himself . Its just amazing how many so called experts on TV , seem to have no clue of how firearms work . all this is theory , because until we get real info & I think we will some , because the Commie's are no longer in charge of info . On another point , there is no way in hell he just snapped , too much time to plan , set up & execute this shooting , far too much time not to think about what he was doing . He had some kind of beef about something or somebody . A lot of these shootings , like this one , where the shooter kills themselves , reminds me of the Movie , Telefon with Charles Bronson , if you haven't seen it , you should , its a good tin foil hat movie , but there are factual experiments on real people that can back some of it up . They are also talking about metal detectors in all the Casinos , good luck with that , someone , like him , will just find a way around it , because he used some women ID to probably get access to secure area's , too much we don't know to start fixing things that may or may not need fixing . Edited October 2, 2017 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Based on the change in firing rate (during strings of shots, not after having had time to change rifles), I'm predicting at least some of the rifles used were fitted with a trigger crank of some sort. You can hear the RPM slow down, then speed back up from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Latest news 59 dead, 500+ injured. They say the guy was a millionaire. If so, he had the money to own full auto. Why would a guy with that much money want shoot innocent people? It will be interesting to hear his motives if they ever figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The firing rate reminded me of a bump fire stock. Sad to hear the MSM calling the rifles "heavy artillery" and "armor piercing artillery". The agenda is clear; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Another guy from the office is connected to one of the lost. His buddy's girlfriend was at the concert with two of her friends and supposed to fly back today. Only two of them are coming home. Crazy crazy deal. Still curious what message the psycho wanted to deliver this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 cowardice peice of shits! I'm truley sorry for the lost and wounded. question for leo: would you take the shot from the ground with your long rifle? risk hitting lower windows? but might just supress the fire until swat entered?? so dissapointed in this mentality in the usa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blue109 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 And fox news enlightens us on the difference between 223 and 308. Apparently 223 only goes through one body while 308 goes through two bodies. Im about done with the internet for today. https://lanterns.buzz/page_blog_post.cfm?s=las-vegas-shooting-killer-bought-more-than-30-weapons-source-says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Come on man...it's almost twice the number...therefore it goes through twice as many infants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreQRiDeR Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) CNN article, name of author conveniently omitted, was calling for the 2nd Ammendment to be rewritten. Yeah, then the first ammendment will be next and they will be out of a job, no longer able to voice their stupid opinions! S.m.h. Edited October 3, 2017 by FreQRiDeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBrien Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 hours ago, blue109 said: And fox news enlightens us on the difference between 223 and 308. Apparently 223 only goes through one body while 308 goes through two bodies. Im about done with the internet for today. https://lanterns.buzz/page_blog_post.cfm?s=las-vegas-shooting-killer-bought-more-than-30-weapons-source-says From that article... ”Fully automatic weapons are illegal, but machinists can convert them. YouTube videos also explain how it can be done. There is one unlikely exception. A machine gun purchased prior to 1986 is eligible for a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which issued a tax stamp. But those stamps are almost impossible to acquire.” Umm. Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, COBrien said: But those stamps are almost impossible to acquire.” Umm. Okay. Unless you are a millionaire of course! I actually hope that bit of disinformation sticks with the libtards, kind of a move along, nothing to see here deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, FreQRiDeR said: CNN article, name of author conveniently omitted, was calling for the 2nd Ammendment to be rewritten. Yeah, then the first ammendment will be next and they will be out of a job, no longer able to voice their stupid opinions! S.m.h. I completely agree that it needs to be rewritten. Into small, simple, understandable and unambiguous words that even the dems can understand. "People can and should own guns. This right cannot be altered." Use a really big crayon to write it if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Reports some of the weapons he had at his home were equipped with Bump fire stocks , so one could to assume its what he used in the shooting . If he did use a legally acquired NFA weapon , it would be the first one ever used in a commission of a crime . I think a stolen NFA was used once , but that really doesn't count . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 So if that is the case, it would mean the talk about them being illegally modified would be false, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 22 hours ago, Sisco said: Let's not assume anything until we know. That just adds fuel to the fire. It's bad enough as it is. Paddock's story, whatever it is, will b e coming to light soon. Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have added to the rumors, but the whole incident is off-kilter. Things are just not adding up. Not to dispute there is evil in the world because there is (Obama, Pelosi, ebola, "Will and Grace"), but this guy who had no history of anything except a parking ticket, nothing to do with firearms, just goes ballistic, gathers up dozens of weapons, modifies them , plans an extensive rampage then kills himself? There's a larger picture here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, mineralman55 said: Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have added to the rumors, but the whole incident is off-kilter. Things are just not adding up. Not to dispute there is evil in the world because there is (Obama, Pelosi, ebola, "Will and Grace"), but this guy who had no history of anything except a parking ticket, nothing to do with firearms, just goes ballistic, gathers up dozens of weapons, modifies them , plans an extensive rampage then kills himself? There's a larger picture here. http://www.wisn.com/article/las-vegas-shooters-father-was-born-in-sheboygan-was-among-fbis-most-wanted/12766593 maybe crazy just runs in the family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, shepp said: http://www.wisn.com/article/las-vegas-shooters-father-was-born-in-sheboygan-was-among-fbis-most-wanted/12766593 maybe crazy just runs in the family I don't doubt that is possible, but why would it take until he was 64 to show itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, mineralman55 said: Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have added to the rumors, but the whole incident is off-kilter. Things are just not adding up. Not to dispute there is evil in the world because there is (Obama, Pelosi, ebola, "Will and Grace"), but this guy who had no history of anything except a parking ticket, nothing to do with firearms, just goes ballistic, gathers up dozens of weapons, modifies them , plans an extensive rampage then kills himself? There's a larger picture here. There is more to his story then we will ever know , his live in GF will have much valuable info & insight into his thinking . You just don't plan & execute something like this with out hate or pay back in your head & why a Country Music Festival ? I just watched the longest video on the shooting & he definitely changed mags or weapons , there were 20-30+ second gaps in-between the shooting . He used two different shooting positions to shoot at people running away from the shooting , corridor of death , so to speak . There has to be some evidence of him practicing , some where , maybe on property that he would be not seen or heard ( not likely ) . He may have converted several rifles to full auto & he had to test them & practice with them or he just got lucky with them ( very unlikely , this was too well planed ) Of course this is all theory , no hard evidence except for the Bump fire Stocks that were reported to be on rifles in his house . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 People kill strangers for one of two reasons, notoriety or for a cause. Notoriety is typically associated with a younger person while a cause is associated with an older individual (sometimes being married to a psychologist pays off). I expect we will find this individual (not a nut, perhaps a bit paranoid) will be much the same as the Arlington shooter who targeted Republicans or the guy who shot his neighbor because he is a Trump supporter. Basically the media is the underlying responsible party, as they are collectively making it OK to hate and harm those who believe in America, just as the CBS VP posted. We will not know specifics until his computers/papers, etc. are analyzed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, EngrBob said: Basically the media is the underlying responsible party, as they are collectively making it OK to hate and harm those who believe in America, just as the CBS VP posted. I agree the media has not helped but ultimately it is on society as a whole. Until we hold people responsible for their actions this crap will only increase. We have allowed everyone to have an excuse, alcoholic, victim of a disease, drug addict, disease victim, gang banger, victim of their surroundings, everyone is a victim and not responsible for their actions. Instead of celebrating victims we should celebrate personal responsibility. It is OK to hate, a perfectly natural emotion for us humans, it is not OK to allow that hate to interfere with others. We have to keep separate the emotion of hate from the acting on that hate, If we allow society to go down the road of legislating the emotion of hate then Liberty is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 That right there^^^ I feel as though the 15 minutes of fame that the media does provide has made these animals just want to one up one another. " Accountability " is what my honorable brother is talking about. Until that happens we are the sheepdogs for our family and friends. God help us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Some alleged photo of two of the weapons , one defiantly has a bump fire stock & I think its a sixty round mag , but I don't own one of these , so it could be a 100 rounder , you guys that have them should be able to tell , the other is a DD rifle . No idea if its full auto converted or whatever . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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