BK.RD.RNR Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 ...That takes 250 rounds of 00 Buck Shot to solve? I mean really, what kind of shtick is someone worried about getting into? I realized that I had about 50 rounds, and I had to ask myself "besides making a bunch of useless noise at the range, what am I going to do with that?" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 That same type of question was asked of me years ago when I ordered a case of 00 buck through my local hardware store by the owner (And a personal friend). He asked what I am going to shoot with these.... My answer was "Any fukn thing I want to." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, BK.RD.RNR said: That takes 250 rounds of 00 Buck Shot to solve? Some call it practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Practice, practice, practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 I got 99 problems and 9 chances per shot. simple mathematics ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK.RD.RNR Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 So my post was meant to be facetious. I get practice, but when I think about the scenarios where 00 is practical or necessary, the ranges involved would primarily be considered indoors or short. I guess if you were getting a new shooter like your wife or girlfriend familiar and comfortable with a firearm, then yeah, sure. But for anyone adept with firearms, how much practice do you really need with 9 pellets per shot at ~30 ft or less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenworks Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 You really need to get away from the computer and seek the outdoors. 00 buck can solve a multitude of problems in a survival situation. From self defense to putting food on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK.RD.RNR Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Lighten up Francis. Like I said, my initial post was mainly in jest. Where I live it is not legal to hunt with 00, and I personally would not consider it an ethical means of taking game under any normal cicumstance. It's only legitimate use would be in some sort of survival situation in my opinion. Apparently you are prepping for the Zombie Apocalypse.... and I spend to much time on the computer... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 The guy I do my Hunters Ed tell the class about the clickity clack of the pump and if that doesn't work let go of the 00 and slugs. As I'm rolling my fukin eyes. Firearms and ammo are tools that work better for a specific application. For up close bird shot to the face will slow things down, 3 to start then 00. Just like pistol ammo, drywall and some masonary will not provide cover in an Urban setting. Neighbor will not appreciate getting dead or shot up. The proximity to the good guys needs to be considered. Don't be that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenworks Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 ^^Hardened shot is much more preferred, but it comes as a premium. I find it ironic that the military continues to use 00 buck and probably will for the forcible future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Only reason to stockpile 250 double 00 buck is 1. you like to destroy stuff. Or; 2. You are the armorer and ordnance supply officer for a POW camp. Or ; 3. You really do believe the Apocalyse is around the corner, and mistakenly believe it will guarantee your survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'm with @Unforgiven aim small miss small! I have maybe 10 rounds of 00 buck shot and have my shotty loaded with bird shot for the ladies. Having them defend themselves with a load that will jar them enough to make a poor second shot is worthless. Its all about the klick klack of the racking, thats all i hope anyone has to train for. I'll do the precision work if necessary. I can say wrecking shits with 00 is a done deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, BK.RD.RNR said: Where I live it is not legal to hunt with 00, and I personally would not consider it an ethical means of taking game Same here!! I like 00 because it’s cheap and you can never have enough ammo, my 12ga in my house has 00 buck in it. For the right price I’ll take 250 rounds of 00 buck 12 hours ago, Ravenworks said: You really need to get away from the computer and seek the outdoors. 00 buck can solve a multitude of problems in a survival situation. Sometimes your left field posts make me feel the same way...... since your soo good at telling us about yourself tell us about your survival skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) If I lived in say Chicago, D.C. or L.A. calif. I would probably stock at least 250 rounds of 00 and own a flock of Rem 1100s and a pair of Rem 870s. in 12ga and a few 20 ga 1100s. for the lady of the house. Edited February 28, 2019 by mrmackc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 "What kind of problem do you have???" I'm nucking futz!......Just ask my wife or anyone else who knows me very well. "What kind of problem do you have???......That takes 250 rounds of 00 Buck Shot to solve?" None at the moment, but the price of that ammo sure is attractive. As for using a shotgun for home defense, I recommend loading it with #6 low brass. One ounce of lead shot at close range you're unlikely to miss, and the person you will trying to stop will most likely stop whatever it was you didn't like them doing, and their chances of survival are not good either. I use #6 rabbit loads in my Remington 870 for home defense because they are less likely to penetrate walls and kill anyone else in my home who wasn't the intended target. My M-4 is close by equipped with a grip spot light (https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-new-gen-400-lumen-grip-light-w-qd-mounting-base.html) and 60 round Magpul drum, just in case I need a little more firepower than the Remington 870...........Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Maybe my problem is that I am out of buckshot. 250 rounds solves that rather nicely. *Shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 In my book, having ammo never hurts no matter what caliber it is. Now that being said, I've probably had the same 100(or so) of 00 buck for years, since I rarely play with my shotguns. I'm just not much of shotgun guy. Now 7.62 or 5.56...…….you can never have too much of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) loading your Joe Biden double barrel shotgun with one #8 bird shot and an #4, 0, or 00 In case the intruding dude or bitch whichever it may be absorbs the birdshotand goes for the open door at a fast pace the 00 will knock the wind out of their britches or sweats. If they are next to a wall you should be ready to repair some drywall and whatever is behind it. BTW RxR I have a half a box of paper hulled 2 3/4" high brass Winchester xpress 00 12 buckshot my dad got from the federal govt. back in 1943 when they were preparing country folks for National Defense. Dad used a couple of the rounds to dispatch coyotes that intruded into our chicken house. About 10 years ago I test fired a couple rounds of the old stuff, It went BOOM! and took some small limbs off the mesquite tree in our yard. Edited February 28, 2019 by mrmackc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Cliff R said: "What kind of problem do you have???" I'm nucking futz!......Just ask my wife or anyone else who knows me very well. "What kind of problem do you have???......That takes 250 rounds of 00 Buck Shot to solve?" None at the moment, but the price of that ammo sure is attractive. As for using a shotgun for home defense, I recommend loading it with #6 low brass. One ounce of lead shot at close range you're unlikely to miss, and the person you will trying to stop will most likely stop whatever it was you didn't like them doing, and their chances of survival are not good either. I use #6 rabbit loads in my Remington 870 for home defense because they are less likely to penetrate walls and kill anyone else in my home who wasn't the intended target. My M-4 is close by equipped with a grip spot light (https://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-utg-new-gen-400-lumen-grip-light-w-qd-mounting-base.html) and 60 round Magpul drum, just in case I need a little more firepower than the Remington 870...........Cliff Smart ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzukiray Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 My 870 is loaded 00, slug, 00, slug, 00, slug, 00. If someone comes in my house uninvited they are leaving in a bag. I'll go to jail maybe, but myself and my family will be alive. The older I get, the less a deterrent "life in prison" becomes. My wife and sons WON'T die because I was worried about overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) I avoid slugs for home defense. Quite a few years back we did some penetration tests on vehicles with 00 buck and 1 ounce slugs. We placed a cardboard target on each seat about 6" inside the doors (4 door model). We fired 00 buck at the door and most of the pellets penetrated the door skins but failed to effectively get thru the inner door skins, panels and hit the targets. We moved to another door and fired a rifled slug at it. It went completely thru the door, thru the target, thru the target on the opposite seat, and completely thru the other door! Something to be said for the momentum and penetrating power involved with a .750" wide 437 grain projectile traveling around 1800 fps having 3100 ft lbs muzzle energy compared to a .33 round pellet weighing about 54 grains with only 172 ft lbs muzzle energy (about the same as a .380 round).........Cliff Edited March 1, 2019 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterrex Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 My 870 has hi base 6's first 3 shots. 3" 00 buck next 3 shots. Slugs last 2 shots. If I have to use the slugs i am beyond careing what i tear up. More 00 buck on the stock for reloads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 If I have 250 rounds of 00 buck and My howa I have no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Cliff R said: We moved to another door and fired a rifled slug at it. It went completely thru the door, thru the target, thru the target on the opposite seat, and completely thru the other door! That almost sound like a 405gr projectile from the 45-70. I have WAY MORE than 250 rounds of Winchester military buck stored up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Taken a few deer with12 guage slugs. Without a doubt the most definitive kills I have ever witnessed. Like hitting a gnat with a sledgehammer comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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