Sharpshooter Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 You've got two different ways to look at this. 1. The mechanics of society continue to work. You have your choice of pretty much anything that the ammo companies make. 2. The mechanics of society don't work anymore. Your only choices are what you can scrounge up, whether it's from a big-box store or anywhere else. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Interesting. As much as I love some of my less than common rounds, in hindsight, wish I would have built my arsenal around a very few common & widely available calibers & HEAVILY stockpile them. SHTF, doubtful supplies would continue to be produced so I'll base my choice on scrounging. 223/5.56 for rifle. Not my 1st choice but think it would be the more common round found in any kind of quantity now days. 2nd choice for rifle would be .308. Very popular round for hunting, should be able to find some easily, though in smaller quantities . I have several platforms & ample ammo for both rounds I mentioned but if parameter for this exercise is only choose one, I'd have to stick with 223/5.56. Lighter weapon to carry, lighter ammo to carry allowing more to be carried on person & fair chance of picking up more while pilfering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 I’ve built my base around 7.62x39, 9mm, 5.56 and 308. Now I can add the random schit. If any ammo is available to be taken from the fallen, it’s going to be the basic stuff. The guys with the oddball rounds will likely be doing most of the taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, DNP said: I’ve built my base around 7.62x39, 9mm, 5.56 and 308. Now I can add the random schit. If any ammo is available to be taken from the fallen, it’s going to be the basic stuff. The guys with the oddball rounds will likely be doing most of the taking. Yup, I’d only add 12 ga and 22lr for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 I failed to include those…but yes, I absolutely agree with that. Probably more common than the others even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Get off my lawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 +2 for .22 LR...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 SHTF... ? so are we SHTF from government collapse, or are we SHTF from extinction event or pandemic ? so in other words are we being combat ready or survival mode? Combat ready.. it is 5.56 all the way you can carry twice as much 5.56 as you can 308 now if you are over watch 308 or whatever caliber you like for long range add to that 22lr and maybe shotgun for me no shotgun it is not a weapon you will carry everyday but with a 22lr you can hunt and carry lots of ammo but my point is there is a huge difference between running and gunning and digging in in the mountains and feeding yourself, I also think it is foolish to think you are going to stay home unless you have huge support... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 1st choice 5.56 2nd 12 gauge 3rd 22 lr 4th 308 Pistol 1st 45acp 2 nd 44 Mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Magwa said: SHTF... ? so are we SHTF from government collapse, or are we SHTF from extinction event or pandemic ? so in other words are we being combat ready or survival mode? Combat ready.. it is 5.56 all the way you can carry twice as much 5.56 as you can 308 now if you are over watch 308 or whatever caliber you like for long range add to that 22lr and maybe shotgun for me no shotgun it is not a weapon you will carry everyday but with a 22lr you can hunt and carry lots of ammo but my point is there is a huge difference between running and gunning and digging in in the mountains and feeding yourself, I also think it is foolish to think you are going to stay home unless you have huge support... At my age I wouldn’t survive long running and I know the woods around here and what I could trap and harvest. I would dig in, protect what I have and barter what I don’t need for what I do. And realize my life expectancy just got significantly reduced. If you are near water buy a good gill net and store it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) If we are talking "survival" 22LR fits the bill nicely. I can take just about anything with it in these parts but will move up a notch for deer. If I'm going to have to defend myself primary weapon will be one of my AR-15's, probably the one in the pic below with one of my Eotech's on it, secondary will be my Smith and Wesson M & P 2.0. My back-up/off duty is currently either my S & W 38 revolver or Hellcat outfitted with their new 15 round magazine. Retiring from the CSI job end of this year which will end a long career in LE working now for three different agencies. I started WAY back in the late 1970's and continuous service one place or the other till end of this year, then throwing in the towel. Got some really BAD news yesterday, an old friend passed away. We were stationed together from 1999 till 2003 when I retired. We stayed in touch until just before the Pandemic started. I has just thinking about him the other day and was going to call. Got a call instead from a Reservist that came Active Duty and worked with us for a couple of years after 9-11. Freddy was just about in tears when he told me the bad news. Mr T and I did investigations together out of the same office and rode around together just about every day in a big black Suburban. He will certainly be missed and the World is a lesser place without him in it.......we'll raise some shots of Four Roses for you in Elk camp in October........ Edited August 30, 2021 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 hours ago, sketch said: Get off my Fukin lawn. FIFY brother 🍺🍺🇺🇸 that's me now 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 5.56, 12ga, 9mm, and 22lr. minimum. .308 as an extra. Nice setup brother Cliff 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 .22 LR , .22mag. .223, 3030, 308, 3006, .50 BP muzzle loader .410, 20ga, 12 ga, 32acp,380,38sp, 9MM,,357mag,.40,.45 3/8" ball bearings. (sling shot) K-Bar, tomahawk, crossbow could be considered. I learned to scatter stuff around from a moonshiner uncle in Missouri, he kept qt. jars of white lightning scattered in the woods, hid in leaves and under rocks, he said "Jest in case!" Is anyone keeping dynamite, c4, det. cord and blasting caps ?....Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 5.56 , .22 LR ,and .308 for rifle and 9MMS for handguns . There are better rounds but it's what I got and it's what I have trained most with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF89 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) I can see it now , just picture madmax Robocop on his police motorcycle with a .500 blackout. Or @98Z5V with his pants down looking for hugs with a 6.5 grendel AR slung over his shoulder 🤣 Edited August 28, 2021 by JF89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Firearms wise I got all the common calibers covered along with components/reloading set up. A few less common caliber firearms and components, shotguns(12ga,.410) blackpowder( .50 rifle,.36 revolver), Archery( compound, crossbow) 11 hours ago, mrmackc said: Is anyone keeping dynamite, c4, det. cord and blasting caps ?....Why not? None on hand but know where it's kept( mining, logging) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 If I can truly only have one... 7.62X51 / .308... Capable of taking almost any game in North America Provides range and knockdown superiority over the other two ubiquitous battle rifle cartridges (5.56X45 and 7.62X39) - yes - I know it is heavier too. Readily available in any NATO country. Functions in a wide variety of relatively available rifles ranging from battle rifles, to hunting rifles, to tactical tack-driver bolt guns. That said - you can bet that I can keep more than 1 - and when the SHTF there will be .22LR, 5.56, 7.62X39, 7.62X51, 45-70, 12ga, 9mm, and .45ACP stuff in the bug-out box. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Nice setup brother Cliff 👍 Tks, been keeping it pretty close by since the Pandemic started. Would hate to end up someplace and have everybody pointing guns but me!..... Edited August 30, 2021 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, BigNate said: If I can truly only have one... 7.62X51 / .308... Capable of taking almost any game in North America Provides range and knockdown superiority over the other two ubiquitous battle rifle cartridges (5.56X45 and 7.62X39) - yes - I know it is heavier too. Readily available in any NATO country. Functions in a wide variety of relatively available rifles ranging from battle rifles, to hunting rifles, to tactical tack-driver bolt guns. That said - you can bet that I can keep more than 1 - and when the SHTF there will be .22LR, 5.56, 7.62X39, 7.62X51, 45-70, 12ga, 9mm, and .45ACP stuff in the bug-out box. 🙂 I forgot .300WM in my longer list above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 22 mag, 5.56, 357 mag, 358 Win, and 12 guage. The rest will be aquired as found, but there is still enough available to take out a few garbage cans of trash....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 hours ago, BigNate said: 45-70, You just turned me on... I have a 45-70 handload that you need to shoot... 7 hours ago, BigNate said: I forgot .300WM in my longer list above. Bring that thing down here, too, brother. We're shooting those things at the mile. So far, it's just been me and @JBMatt - so adding another person into the mix will be great! Other people have pulled the triggers on those two guns - but nobody else with enough-gun has brought one out, since we started doing this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff R Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 45/70 was my "go to" caliber for decades. I've been shooting and hand loading for them dating clear back to the early 1980's. My favorite load is a 300 grain Remington hollow point backed by a full charge of Reloader 7. I've taken scores of Whitetail Deer with it and Elk out West. Haven't had a deer take another step on a good hit and no Elk has made it over 30 yards hit in the good stuff. Most just drop right where they were standing. I've tried heavier bullets a few times and still have some LOOSE teeth from that deal....NO THANKS! A good friend handed me his Ruger #1 once in 45/70 with a custom 500 grain hand-load. I touched off one round, picked my glasses and hat up off the ground and gave it back to him.........and it still hurts 30 years later!!! Sadly I retired both of my 45/70's a few years back and moved to a 450 Bushmaster. It doesn't have quite the whack of the 45/70 but I like the platform a LOT better. Completely 100 percent weatherproof, lighter and semi-auto for much quicker back up shots. Hornady also got their chit together when they got in on that deal with Bushmaster. I've never seen any commercial cartridge in a semi-auto platform be that accurate. 100 yard groups will pretty much all be in the same hole if you do your part!.........Cliff Edited August 31, 2021 by Cliff R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 8:44 PM, 98Z5V said: You just turned me on... I have a 45-70 handload that you need to shoot... Bring that thing down here, too, brother. We're shooting those things at the mile. So far, it's just been me and @JBMatt - so adding another person into the mix will be great! Other people have pulled the triggers on those two guns - but nobody else with enough-gun has brought one out, since we started doing this... It's just an old Ruger 77MK2 - long skinny barrel in a synthetic stock (first rifle that I ever bought myself). It weighs nothing, kicks like a mule. I put a Timny trigger in it - and that helps it - but it's no target rifle. I guess I could get some long heavy .300 WM match rounds and see what it will do... Looks just like this (other than the optic)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Errr... cough cough.... https://greenacressporting.com/product/federal-gm300wmbh1-premium-gold-medal-300-win-mag-215-gr-berger-hybrid-open-tip-match-20-round-box/ Maybe not! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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